Episode 57: Awake or Asleep?

At times it can be hard to tell whether you have gone to sleep or not, or how much you have slept. This can be a particular problem for people with insomnia who can be prone to under-estimating how much sleep they are actually getting. To understand how this happen we spoke to Dr Lieke Hermans from Eindhoven University of Technology, Netherlands.

Dr Moira Junge (Health Psychologist) and Dr David Cunnington (Sleep Physician) host the monthly podcast, Sleep Talk – Talking all things sleep.

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Audio Timeline / Chapters:

  • 00:00 – 25:28 Theme – Awake or Asleep?
  • 25:28 – 26:30 Clinical Tip
  • 26:30 – 29:53 Pick of the Month
  • 29:53 – 32:26 What’s Coming Up?

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Guest interview:

Dr Lieke Hermans was born in 1992 in Alphen a/d Rijn, the Netherlands. In 2016, she received her M.Sc. degree at the University of Twente in Technical Medicine, with the specialization Medical Sensing and Stimulation. During her master thesis she was involved in a project at the UMC Utrecht about EEG network analysis as a tool for detecting postoperative cognitive impairment in the elderly. In December 2020 she finished her PhD project at the Eindhoven University of Technology, titled ‘sleep structure and sleep perception in people with insomnia’. Currently she is working as a postdoctoral researcher at the Eindhoven University of Technology, where she continues to study how clinical relevant information can be extracted from sleep measurements.

Regular hosts:

Dr Moira JungeDr Moira Junge is a health psychologist working in the sleep field, who has considerable experience working with people with sleeping difficulties in a multidisciplinary practice using a team-based approach. Moira is actively involved with the Australasian Sleep Association (ASA) and a board member of the Sleep Health Foundation. She has presented numerous workshops for psychologists and is involved with Monash University with teaching and supervision commitments. She is one of the founders and clinic directors at Yarraville Health Group which was established in 1998. 

Connect with Moira on Twitter – @MoiraJunge

Dr David CunningtonDr David Cunnington is a sleep physician and director of Melbourne Sleep Disorders Centre, and co-founder and contributor to SleepHub. David trained in sleep medicine both in Australia and in the United States, at Harvard Medical School, and is an International Sleep Medicine Specialist, Diplomate Behavioral Sleep Medicine and Registered Polysomnographic Technologist. David’s clinical practice covers all areas of sleep medicine and he is actively involved in training health professionals in sleep.

Connect with David on Twitter – @DavidCunnington. David also regularly posts information on sleep to his Facebook page.

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