Episode 40: What is Normal Sleep?
Is it really normal to sleep for 8 hours undisturbed each night, or is that just an unrealistic expectation? We talk to Darian Leader, author of Why Can’t we Sleep? about how people have slept throughout history and how many of our expectations about sleep are driven by social fads.
Dr Moira Junge (Health Psychologist) and Dr David Cunnington (Sleep Physician) host the monthly podcast, Sleep Talk, talking all things sleep.
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Audio Timeline / Chapters:
00:00 – 02:48 Introduction
- 02:48 – 26:21 Theme – What is Normal Sleep?
- 26:21 – 27:17 Clinical Tip
- 27:17 – 29:20 Pick of the Month
- 29:20 – 30:25 What’s Coming Up?
Next episode: When we eat
Links mentioned in the podcast:
- Article on use of screening questionnaires to diagnose obstructive sleep apnea
- Commentary on use of screening questionnaires to diagnose obstructive sleep apnea
- Darian Leader
- Why Can’t We Sleep? – Book by Darian Leader
- Meta-analysis on insomnia and mortality from Sleep Medicine Review journal
- Podcast episode on Sleep Around the World
- Inter-individual differences in sensitivity to light – journal article
- Scriptwise resource
Darian Leader is a psychoanalyst working in London and a member of the Centre for Freudian Analysis and Research and of The College of Psychoanalysts-UK. He is the author of several books including: ‘Why do women write more letters than they post?’; ‘Freud’s Footnotes’; ‘Stealing the Mona Lisa: What Art Stops Us From Seeing’; ‘Why do people get ill?’ (with David Corfield) , ‘The New Black: Mourning, Melancholia and Depression’, ‘What is Madness?’ , ‘Strictly Bipolar’ and ‘Hands’, and his most recent book, ‘Why Can’t We Sleep? (2019). He writes frequently about contemporary art.
Darian’s latest book is Why Can’t we Sleep?
Dr Moira Junge is a health psychologist working in the sleep field, who has considerable experience working with people with sleeping difficulties in a multidisciplinary practice using a team-based approach. Moira is actively involved with the Australasian Sleep Association (ASA) and a board member of the Sleep Health Foundation. She has presented numerous workshops for psychologists and is involved with Monash University with teaching and supervision commitments. She is one of the founders and clinic directors at Yarraville Health Group which was established in 1998. In addition to her expertise in sleep disorders, her other areas of interest and expertise include smoking cessation, psychological adjustment to chronic illness, and grief and loss issues.
Dr David Cunnington is a sleep physician and director of Melbourne Sleep Disorders Centre, and co-founder and contributor to SleepHub. David trained in sleep medicine both in Australia and in the United States, at Harvard Medical School, and is certified as both an International Sleep Medicine Specialist and International Behavioural Sleep Medicine Specialist. David’s clinical practice covers all areas of sleep medicine and he is actively involved in training health professionals in sleep. David is a regular media commentator on sleep, both in traditional media and social media. David’s recent research has been in the area of non-drug, psychologically-based treatments such as cognitive behavioral therapy and mindfulness in managing insomnia, restless legs syndrome and other sleep disorders.
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